Golden rules: What to do if SS want to steal your children

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1. IGNORE SOCIAL WORKERS!! Don’t talk to them, don’t allow them in your house, assess you, or send you to the psychobabble merchants! The “SS” have NO authority so you are not obliged to listen to them or obey them!

Never let social workers in your house without an appointment, never go alone to any meetings they hold, never agree to voluntary care for your child, never admit to any fault (they don’t!), never be rude or unfriendly to them, but never obey them either! NEVER,NEVER sign anything even when they pressure you! Remember social workers are not police, and have no legal authority to give you orders as only a court can do that. They cannot stop you seeing your children as they come out of school or receiving emails from any public library, or receiving reverse charge calls from any call box if they dial 100 unless you have been served with a specific court injunction forbidding all contact.

Protect yourself against social workers with NO COURT ORDER barging uninvited into your home by fitting a small chain inside your front door. This means that if you do not unlatch the chain when you see who is calling that person would have to push the door hard enough to break the chain which would be a “forced entry” and a criminal offense if committed without a document from the court such as a “recovery order” specifically allowing entry using reasonable force. Unless they intend to actually arrest someone or have good reason to believe someone in the house is in danger of severe physical harm, police also would have to have a warrant before breaking the chain. Usually they will not have one and would have to convince a judge that a serious crime had been or was about to be committed before one was granted.

Never believe a word “they” say and always insist they put their promises down in writing. Always be pleasant and polite to social workers, but never forget they are your ENEMIES!

Remember that they may deliberately try to provoke you into shouting or violence that they will exaggerate in court leaving you with a criminal record and no children! When they shout at you forget your “pride” and look very hurt saying “why are you being like this to me?” or “I thought you were so nice until now, please don’t bully me!” Be very respectful “tongue in cheek”, but remember THEY ARE NOT POLICE so never follow their “helpful advice” especially if they say your only chance of getting your children back is to split from a partner, or parent you love and respect! They will try and turn you against each other as the “divide and rule” principle makes sure you are confused and demoralised when you lose your case and your children too!

If you are told to get a different solicitor to your partner I advise you to represent yourself and let your partner keep a solicitor (or vice versa) so that at least one of you will be free in court to tell your own story and to question social workers!

Quite often they arrange deliberately awkward contact times with your children. This can result first in the loss of your job and then as a consequence of that, your accommodation also. Object firmly and forcefully in court to their plans and fight hard to keep your job and your house or appartment. Remember that when they make the threat “do as we say or we shall take your children”

    they intend to take them anyway no matter how much you do to please them

and they just want you to make it easier for them to win their case in court by seeing psychologists and parenting assessors they have chosen themselves and who they know will give you bad reports!

Every time you do what they say you make it easier for them to take your children so don’t be taken in!


Children should only be taken if a parent has been charged with a crime against a child or has committed one. The process of dealing with such cases in a criminal court rather than a civil one would also DETERMINE THAT FAULTS BY A PARENT WOULD BE JUDGED NOT ON PROBABILITIES BUT BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT. Parents would then automatically have the right to ask for a hearing in front of a jury if they risked losing their children long term or permanently.

NEVER, NEVER, NEVER sign any documents they present to you, even if they say “you have to!” Social Workers rely on BLUFF. In reality they have NO POWER and no right to threaten you or give you orders of any kind! Only a COURT via an order from a judge can give you orders, and you always have the opportunity to contest those orders in court either before or after they are given to you. No matter what threats,or promises they make, you can be 100% sure that if you get intimidated into signing they will break their word and expect you to keep yours! So, DO NOT SIGN! Answer “yes”, “no” or “I don’t know” to questions WITHOUT further explanations that could be twisted to be used against you! If the “SS” do not have enough evidence against you do not “cooperate” by supplying them with what they need even if they threaten you. If your enemies run out of ammunition, do NOT send them over a box of bullets to help them out!

Once the SS have applied for a care order remember their main object is NOT the welfare of the child, it is to WIN their case against you! Disregard any threats that you must “do as they tell you “. Be polite and even apologetic when you refuse to obey them!

IF the “SS” threaten to take your children for adoption, make sure your children never forget you. Hug them tight at “last contact” so they cannot easily be removed while you repeat to them that wicked people are stealing them for money, and to say no to adoption when they try to give them a horrible new mummy and daddy!

THIS AT LEAST SHOULD HELP TO SABOTAGE ANY UNWANTED ADOPTIONS AND MAKE SURE YOUR KIDS WILL ALWAYS REMEMBER YOU AND GET IN TOUCH LATER. Not many “adopters” will want to take in a child who has been told to say “NO” to adoption in any case!

Remember that the SS often “brainwash” children in care by telling them that their mother is too ill to care for them or worse still does not love them or want them any more, but when they are adopted they will have a lovely new “for ever mummy and daddy”! These children are often traumatised for life wondering if they are evil and if that was why their mother abandoned them. Better to avoid this trauma by telling them the initially upsetting truth. Make sure you hold them tight to stop interuptions when you tell the children that “wicked people have stolen them for money and that you will never stop fighting to get them back”! Whisper this in their ears or calmly make the statement out loud in spite of horrified supervisors who may then try to shout you down! Even children as young as 3 will remember all their lives such a brutal but necessary message. Vital however it is, as it will eventually make a stable adoption impossible to sustain! Your reluctantly adopted children will as a result seek you out and come back to you in the end!

Once adoption proceedings have finished there is no more confidentiality, so plaster your children’s names and photographs all over facebook and the rest of the internet together with names of the social workers and so called “experts” who have stolen your children! Make it hard for adopters and ss alike as that’s your best chance of eventually seeing your children again! The ss may seek an injunction to remove the display so it is prudent to have a third party actually put on the photos etc with your complete story on facebook, twitter, and all the other similar sites!

If you find your adopted child ‘s address or school MAKE FACE TO FACE contact immediately! Do NOT SEND EMAILS OR CARDS IN ADVANCE or make any phone calls that could warn the adoptive parents and send them to court for an injunction! Also your children were probably told that you abandoned them and did not love them so they might even avoid meeting you without finding out the truth through nervousness. For these reasons, give no advance notice of your intentions to call on them.

2. Family Courts. 99.7% of parents lose against the “ss” in court and those who win are usually those who represent themselves as most legal aid lawyers in family courts are “professional losers” not on your side at all! If you are a couple let one have a lawyer and the other act in person. State facts not opinions, never interrupt and you will at least have been allowed to speak unlike many parents who lose their children to adoption for life without saying a single word! Answer all questions from police or barristers whenever possible by “yes”, “no” or “I don’t know” and never complain about any social worker or police officer in court. Never say there is a conspiracy against you, say instead that social workers try desperately to COVER UP THEIR MISTAKES in your case and that civil servants are notorious for trying to cover up mistakes rather than admit them!

More often alas you will have to sack your lawyers and represent yourself simply because they will not let you speak in court! Never admit to social workers (who are your ENEMIES) that you have been at fault in even the smallest possible way, (they certainly will never admit to you that they were ever at fault!). You must never lie in court, but you should never never admit to any fault on your part unless forced to do so by a direct “yes or no” type question in court. Above all, NEVER NEVER plead guilty to something you have not done simply because they promise to “bind you over” or let you off with “a caution” if you do and threaten you with prison if you refuse! This just means they have insufficient evidence and are trying to trick you into pleading guilty so they can win their case!

Remember to be the OPPOSITE of what whatever faults the ss attribute to you! If they say you are too aggressive, act timid and vice versa! If they say you are too emotional act “cool” and vice versa!

Your whole tone in Court must be one of “sweetness and light” regretting that your children were mistakenly taken and that THEY (not you) suffered harm and anguish as a result! DO NOT LOSE your case by being hostile in court towards social workers and especially towards the judge!! Eagerly propose a supervision order as a much more suitable alternative for your children than fostering or forced adoption. Emphasise that you have nothing to hide and that if a SUPERVISION ORDER is granted instead of fostering or adoption, your door will always be open to health visitors and social workers wishing to check the well being of your children! Your whole case must be that YOUR CHILDREN have suffered harm (not yourself) and that you are taking action for their sake not for your own! If you are accused of “being unable to work with the professionals”, reply that you will work 100% with them if they say their objective is to reunite your family by eventually returning your children, but that it is unfair to expect you to work with anyone whose objective declared to the court is to put your children into care or worse still have them adopted!

NEVER COMPLAIN NEVER EXPLAIN! Complaints about individual social workers, lawyers, or policemen are a waste of time as they investigate themselves and you risk being diverted from the more important task of keeping or recovering your children. Complaints against social workers often result in them taking your children or redoubling their efforts to keep them if they already have them! They are a vindictive lot!

Never explain or elaborate when questioned as this only gives extra material to those who wish to discredit you. If asked when, why, or whether you did something or went somewhere, answer “yes”,”no” “I don’t know”or “I don’t remember” but never try to explain WHY you went there or did something (unless asked specifically) and even then reply “because I thought it the best thing to do at the time” or something similar as explaining and talking too much will enable a crafty local authority barrister to seize on something you let slip and turn your case from winning into losing!

Never make angry personal attacks on anybody or threaten to sue the “SS” or police at a later date, as it just makes YOU sound bad. They may even seize on your resentment as an excuse to diagnose you with PARANOIA!

If you are accused of wild conspiracy theories and thinking all the world is against you, then reply that social workers are desperate to COVER UP THEIR MISTAKES IN YOUR CASE RATHER THAN ADMIT THEM; also that you can’t help believing what the most senior family judges say!

If a judge tries to ridicule your testimony by asking “Do you think we are all in a conspiracy to take your child”? Answer “No of course not! It’s just that social workers never change their minds once they form an opinion even if later events show they were wrong. They stick to their original story come what may to COVER UP THEIR MISTAKES and the courts nearly always side with them. Ask “Who am I to disagree with the senior family court judge when he says the behaviour of social workers is shocking?”

BEWARE the “Official Solicitor”! If you get too upset or too excited the judge may decide you are not capable of instructing a solicitor or representing yourself and will appoint this parasite to represent you instead. He is by law forbidden to put on a case for you as his job is simply to agree with the “SS”, to refuse to let you speak, and ensure that you lose your precious children without being allowed to say a word!! Even if you stay calm but still show hostility the judge may appoint a psychologist recommended by the “SS” to give you an IQ test and if through nerves etc your results are poor once again the Official Solicitor will be appointed to “represent” you. Alas,thanks to him, you will be gagged, and your children will be lost to forced adoption.

3. Avoid the parents assessors, psychologists, and other so called “professionals” selected by the “ss” who are regularly paid outrageous fees to discredit you!

Never, never agree to let your children go into foster care (especially if they say it is TEMPORARY OR VOLUNTARY). Never “agree” the thresholds even if you are advised that this will ensure the return of your children, because if you do you will have admitted neglecting or abusing your child and the only question left will be to decide if you have really repented and are capable of “change”! Usually the answer is no! Sometimes your own lawyer may tell you to agree the thresholds and/or agree to an interim care order otherwise “you will never see your children again!” That is a wicked lie designed to save the lawyers work and to help you LOSE your children! Sometimes lawyers will tell you there is no need for you to give evidence as they will speak for you; that way you may find you have lost your children very quickly without being allowed to say a word, so BEWARE! Most of the “legal aid lawyers” in the family courts are rightly known in the trade as “PROFESSIONAL LOSERS”!! Many of them pretend to work for you when in fact they are really on the side of the Local Authority.

To avoid accusations of mental problems OR TO PRESENT YOUR CASE IN COURT act as follows:

a. Do NOT speak a lot or go off the subject chosen for discussion by the psy OR BY THE COURT;
b. NEVER slag off anybody or complain about anybody past or present; Say only that those who took your children made a terrible mistake! Do NOT get angry about anything!
c. Say ONLY that your children have suffered being deprived of a mother NOT that you have suffered!
d. Listen carefully when the psy OR HOSTILE BARRISTER speaks to you and NEVER interrupt when he/she is talking however much you want to!
e. Try NOT to complain about anything especially your parents or your childhood as psys blame everything on childhood incidents!
f. Answer all questions where possible by YES or NO or possibly “I don’t know” or “I can’t remember”! NEVER go in for long explanations or excuses and never admit to wrongdoing because if you do they will make your past admitted mistakes the highlight of the report!

If social services request a look at your medical records (probably to try and find something to discredit you) ALWAYS write to any doctor or psychiatrist that has seen you as follows:

“I respectfully request you to keep all my medical notes strictly confidential as I intend to take legal proceedings against social services and any other persons who might obtain my medical details without my express authorisation”.

4. Remember there is no forced adoption in Ireland (no passports needed on the ferry from the UK), Spain, France, or Italy and no extradition from Northern Cyprus! Escape legally (nobody can stop you!) whilst pregnant or well before court proceedings have started and you will be safe!

ESCAPE WHILE YOU HAVE TIME! You must never disobey a court order by taking abroad a child already in care, but if you are pregnant and threatened neither a court nor the “SS” can stop you leaving the country before the baby is born! If the children are already with you, but you feel menaced by social services try to leave the country BEFORE any notice of care proceedings is served on you.

Ireland is easiest and is cheap to get to. (No forced adoption allowed there, and if you take the ferry no passport needed!). The “SS” rarely work at weekends so a departure on Friday evening is a good way of avoiding altercations and clashes with frustrated social workers! You are however advised to notify the Irish police shortly after your safe arrival as otherwise you might be posted in the UK as a missing person!

Here is a Mumsnet thread re adoption in Ireland. A married couple can’t give up a child for adoption even if they want to!! A single mother can give up her child for adoption, presumably for a fairly obvious reason. The Irish State cannot forcibly adopt a child against the wishes of a married or single mother!!

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